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did you go away in the public because we

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had friends you know from aerospace

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industry and friends from everywhere

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scientists that wanted to study and the

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deal was stay away from the UFO world

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stay away from the public we want to

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work with you see what's going on and so

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I just was so happy to be out of the

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public I didn't ever want to speak about

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it again these people were helping my

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children understand and cope with school

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and made us feel special and I mean I

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just want to thank these folks and so

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along about Easter that that night I had

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this experience and she said you know

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I'm here this is your burden you must

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bear and that meant that I was told from

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the beginning I had to tell this story

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what I knew how I understood it what

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happened and that's all they ever wanted

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me to tell it so after she came I knew

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that was it I had to tell and I was

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really willing to tell it but what I

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didn't know is dr. Pugh salka which is a

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very smart individual I'm telling you

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she's she's a genius I would say we just

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think a lot of her she she came she had

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approached MOOC on early on because in

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her religious studies she's very very

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well known and people within the Vatican

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she went to Berkeley she just you just

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study who she is

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I mean she's she was like somebody that

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could help me with answers but she was

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studied she approached MUFON and said I

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want to I want to talk to people that

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reported angelic encounters they say

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well there's a guy right down the street

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from you a couple of hours away hour and

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a half away that that so they lined it

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up they called me and said we have this

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person we want you to meet would you be

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willing to talk and in two weeks

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I was I was at a conference after the

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lady come I'm in six hours away I drove

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six hours with my youngest son Ryan to

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meet this professor and to tell the

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story and so I started telling it about

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the lady as all I wanted to talk about

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because he had just happened two weeks

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before I would have never met her if it

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hadn't have been for this encounter with

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this lady she arranged it so let's fast

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forward to June after I didn't even meet

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her really that night I just met her

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husband and we talked very nice and she

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stayed away arm's length away never

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spoke to me other than a nod so long

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about June Jill I get a call from MUFON

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again would you come speak or come to

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Wellington we don't want you to speak

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the dr. Priscilla is gonna be there we

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want you to she wants to spend a few

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minutes with you so I drove down Ryan

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and I again we go to dinner that evening

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the whole group and then we go out on

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the beach that night and Diana and I

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move down the beach

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about 20 or 30 yards from the group they

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were sky watching then we began to talk

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and she had she just had a big

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experience in her life during that time

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that that made her be where she is today

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you're talking about in a bazooka

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yes okay gotcha so here comes the

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October and Diana Claus and we've been

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talking a little bit from we never

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talked from the first time I met her

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till June or July and then we talked

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some from there too

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like very good study partners now we're

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getting into it so she calls me and says

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Chris I'm here moment inand I'm working

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on a television project a movie called

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the conjuring very

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prominent Horesh she said I'm just being

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led to to introduce you to these guys

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they want to meet you and I'm like Diana

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it would take a miracle for me to meet

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anybody in the television industry just

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three and a half years ago my life was

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nearly destroyed because I went public

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and I'd promised myself I'd I said tell

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you what I'm I'm gonna asked for a sign

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because this lady told me she would

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always be there and she would help me to

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tell the world to tell my experience

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she said I'll guide you so come the this

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was like on a Monday when she calls me

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long about Thursday she caused me again

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called me a couple times that wait but

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she wrote me and she said or college she

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said have you gotten a sign yet I said

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no don't go sign I'm sorry

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she said well these guys are leaving

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Saturday they're going back to

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California and I really wanted you to

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meet him I said I'm sorry but I haven't

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had a son so on Thursday night I walk

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out the back door

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this is when I quit smoking by the way

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he said 13th of October that brings to

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me the day my wife and I were watching

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television in my study and I said I'm

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gonna go out and smoke some pot pause

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the television walked out the back door

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had been raining for two days

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measured rainfall by an inch or more

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rain it was kind of grass was wet I'm

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out smoking just off the patio and here

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she comes out behind me and when she

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looks through the back door she hasn't

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even opened it yet these sparks about a

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hundred yards of 75 yards out behind our

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house back at the back of the property

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we see sparks come off this tree and it

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was really weird-looking little red

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sparks just went in different directions

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and she said open the door she said what

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in the world is going on with a tree I

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said I have no idea so it did it once or

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twice more and then all of a sudden

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right in front of she and I they rubbed

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it into flames 1012 feet

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was just bursted out of the side of this

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tree burning behind the air well she

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freaks out you can hear a voice in the

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video Ryan takes the video my mom and

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dad and everybody sees it I drag a hose

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way back there at a garden near the area

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so we had a [\h__\h] it out so I bring her a

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hose pipe it she personally puts this

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thing out sticks the hose up in the

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trees burned a hole in the side of it

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it's really hot and puts it out Ryan

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took video of it and putting it out this

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was at nine o'clock twelve o'clock that

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night everybody was so messed up about

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this thing she couldn't sleep so 12

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o'clock she looks out the back door we

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all do and now this thing's burning

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again self back in the plane so same

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process she goes out and puts it out

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again three o'clock in the morning it

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catches on fire the third time well

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anyhow the first time it caught a fire

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at nine o'clock that night as it's

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burning that text died and I said I got

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Chris and you're glossing over this just

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a bit okay and I respect that but let me

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back up here not from watching this

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video and and when Chris shot you

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couldn't see clearly in the video and I

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don't think I misinterpreted this the

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flames were coming from inside of the

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the tree it wasn't on the site this was

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self combusting it's like spontaneous

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tree combustion that is happening from

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inside of the tree and when you see

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something like that how proposing it

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down you're putting it out it's just

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rain for a couple of days everything is

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nothing catches on fire in in nature

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when things are going down like this but

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this tree

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is has decided to self combust

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internally what's going through your

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I love Chris's reaction on the video by

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the way I think his his reaction was

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pretty honest what's going through your

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mind because this is impossible

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right well that changed well it was kind

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of I didn't know what to think I just

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knew it was a sign because the lady told

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me I will help you if you'll do this

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I'll help you share with the world well

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let me tell you from the time she left

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from that point on is when I started

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taking all these videos for the first

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five years this stuff would be in my

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house or over top the kids were seeing

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it all others but as soon as I pull out

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a telephone or anything to shoot a

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picture with it would disappear one time

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at Friday camera but after that 2012

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event is when I started getting all this

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these videos and these and able to share

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it with people I mean as as little as

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last month a friend of mine he's become

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a very good friend now is dr. Bob

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McGuire from Virginia Tech called me or

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wrote me at Thanksgiving and said cannot

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come see I'd like to meet you my wife

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and I talked about doing some aerial

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tracking see if we can catch some of it

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I said sure we're talking about bombers

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from from the Hume Center at Virginia

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okay all right now you're in the big

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leagues so he comes out and right he

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writes me at Thanksgiving he comes out

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in January / second week of January I

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think and it was here on Friday it was

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he just got here on Friday so we spent a

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lot of time chatting and hidden his wife

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we all got to meet each other and it was

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cloudy and rainy and then Saturday at

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rain and Saturday night it rained and

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we're just having a good time of

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conversation with Sunday night it

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started clearing up and got a

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beautiful sky we went out to eat and

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long about 8 or 8:30 I guess he would

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know we decided we can sky watch so we

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go out to my little man cave I have a

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little shop in the yard and I spent a

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lot of time and just we walk we live on

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a cabin on a pond and his private back

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in here sewed them back into the pond

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it's darker so we walked towards that

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way and I just looked up at the heavens

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and I asked them I need a sign if I'm

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supposed to allow dr. McGuire to work

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with me and try to capture some of this

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home you know and no longer than I said

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it right in front of him he heard me but

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then the minute it started appearing and

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it appeared for of an hour and he's

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already taught public about it and I

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mean it was really incredible that they

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were appearing in the trees orbs in the

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shooting through the trees and you know

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he'll tell the story but it changed his

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life and then his wife will let him tell

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this but she had had a stroke and was

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suffering from the consequences of that

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and when he goes home he starts having

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experiences over the next five or six

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days that were or two weeks that were

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just incredible and his wife is cysts

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being cured from her disability with

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this stroke and so you know this is what

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is going on through the years and I'll

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leave him to tell the rest of it but

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that's enough there when you add John

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Alexander and chase clusky and some

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folks from Raleigh they can all attest

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to this ongoing and it hears us and I've

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got some pretty amazing evidence to

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share some that can't be debunked let's

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put it that way sure

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yeah in the burning tree videos

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incredible and before we start to wind

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this down I've got less than ten minutes

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left now that do you think it's your

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property or do you think it's you right

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is this is this a geographical a

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situation that is attracting what is

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happening or do you think that it is

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because of you it's not the property I

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can I have plenty of people that were

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vouched for it like you know the our

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friend that introduced us Laurie she

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experienced it in Encinitas I flew out

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to meet with a bunch of folks and we

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walked right out on the the or we drove

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out on the Pacific Highway and right

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around Encinitas there I told her

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daughter she was going to experience

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this stuff I just knew she would that

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night and sure enough a few minutes

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later we were experiencing it closed up

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and it flew right over our head two of

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them a couple 300 feet above us and they

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joined together like one and just made

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one object and shot off to the south so

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it doesn't matter it's been here it's

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been on anywhere you know it's the same

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sky I look up in California and see the

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same stars that I see from my home and I

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just ask it to come and that listens it

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hears me answers this ask for signs I

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ask for answers and if they're the piers

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then that's a big yes if it doesn't

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appear then that's a big no you said to

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me earlier tonight I'm just gonna tell

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everybody so Chris and I are talking

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before the show tonight he goes Jimmy

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I'm just gonna let you know

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I asked everybody I said so what about

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this church guy and they said

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affirmative and that makes me that makes

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me feel pretty good actually I walked

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out an hour before the show and I looked

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up at the sky and I asked it that if it

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if it was gonna guide me and if it was

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what I'm supposed to do tonight and like

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I said don't do anything unless I get

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signs for it and it answered with the

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big glowing orange orb appeared and flew

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a piece and disappeared right in front

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of me so I knew that I'm in the right

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hands and and I appreciate that and and

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and so does the audience there's another

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part to this when you say it like that

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which is now we are getting into the

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zone of something spiritual possibly

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religious possibly extraterrestrial and

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this is where I stop Chris and go you

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know what just maybe it's all the same

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thing

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yeah right I agree 100% is that where

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you are today yes sir because the same

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orbs you see that I you know everybody

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says all he's into or absorbs and I've

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been saying orbs because that's what

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appeared in those seven but those same

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orbs in the daytime or shiny silver disc

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and I have a lot of photo at that and

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video as well they can be like a metal

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metallic object or they can be a big

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ball of glowing light so I think it's

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all in the same or including ghosts and

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you know I have a lot of orb photos of

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with people and I'm in dogs in them and

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animals in them so and I never could get

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any of that until the experience with

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the lady nothing I could not take a

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photo but after that the floodgates

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opened

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and then people like chase and her

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husband had an experience a major

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experience where we lost time then a

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scientist from Wake Forest University a

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government research scientist

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she and her assistant came and

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experienced two hours of missing time

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and she caught it on camera

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she caught audio video of an entity

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walking up to the tree

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a lot of stuff that I've just never

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shared but all these people shared it

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with me John Alexander his book reality

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denied he came here four five years ago

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and my daughter not and his wife

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Victoria we went down to the river and

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of almost the same time a night it was

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just after dark good and the stars came

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out and we were standing there against

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my car and Emily was in the backseat

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with her feet out the door and Victoria

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was in the passenger side backseat where

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her door closes she didn't get to see it

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but Emily saw it clear I'm standing

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there with John and all of a sudden I my

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hair stood up everywhere I felt it this

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this you for a [\h__\h] Harley breed and

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I said John is here it's right above us

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and about that time that that's the

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crickets even stopped chirping just

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completely stopped and ten seconds John

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will tell you ten seconds later it

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appeared above us and a big pulsating

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ball of light it didn't fly over it

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wasn't a satellite it was just not very

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high above us a thousand feet maybe

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above us but it appeared out of thin air

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and started pulsing very brightly and

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flew off in a hurry to the South and

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John put that in his book 2nd chapter

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reality denied so you know he's he's a

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pretty it pretty much changed his life

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that night too if he saw well not only

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do I want to thank you you never know

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whose list

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and as you mentioned Bob Maguire he just

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tweeted by the way so Bob is listing and

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he says it's not the property it follows

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Chris around and I said okay here comes

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a shout out to Bob so I tweeted that out

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Bob you got a shout out and yeah I gotta

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get Bob on the show I gotta keep Bob on

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the show maybe I can talk him into it

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thank you so much Chris absolutely

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extraordinary I can't wait for part 2

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and we'll talk about that tomorrow off

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air but a great great conversation

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tonight I was really looking forward to

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this and so was everybody else and I

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feel that we've left so much on the

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table but yet we discussed so much and I

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want to thank you for for taking the

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time tonight thank you so much Chris

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thank you for having man I knew I knew

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going into this and I didn't before but

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tonight I knew I was in the right hands

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and and it's proven to be so I just want

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to thank you for this Jim yeah thank you

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Chris and and all the best have a great

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safe rest of your evening I want you to

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go out in the backyard and go yeah

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you're right Church wasn't that bad and

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maybe maybe you'll get a little visit

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from an orbit thank you so much Chris

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and we'll talk tomorrow man have a great

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night all right thank you Chris bludsoe

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and now everybody we just went literally

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pulled a pole I've got a roll credits

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and get out of here before I'm cut off

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on the network I want to thank Chris

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Bledsoe for the conversation tonight and

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I know that everybody enjoyed

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I was just I was on the edge of my seat

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